0:00
So, tell us a little bit about the process of how you guys made this film. It's, you know, was this it's a lovely, hommage to Spider man and I was just intrigued over like, where you guys shot this whole thing. Was it a college campus you guys are going to or?
0:21
Yeah, the school scenes, the exterior scenes were on our college campus and we shot in a couple of different apartments, his apartment, you know? Haha. We also shot outside of a church for the ending fight scene and just a parking garage for that first fight scene between Spider Man and Kraven.
0:43
Oh, it's wonderful.
0:44
We um, we started the project. Like last year, Hunter and I are big Spider Man fans, and I'm going to school for filmmaking Hunter is going to school for drama. And we were like, we should make a movie we should make a fan film and then Hunter had a Spider Man suit and hundreds of other things of Spider Man. So we just kind of kept growing and growing. And we just kept adding stuff. We brought on Alexei and Emma to the team
1:13
And you really wanted to do a Kraven story.
1:16
Yeah, it was kind of just they wanted to make everyone's dreams happen because the person who played Miles is my roommate. And he loves Miles Morales. And so we just kind of wanted to make a fun thing and it kind of worked out!
1:35
Cool! That's cool. I noticed you guys had a wonderful choreography going on throughout the film. Wonderful execution of the superman punch Hunter.
1:51
Thank you! Thank you very much.
1:54
Great balance. Was Was that fight scene with? You know, like the four or five guys? Like it was literally just outdoors? Or was it like a padding sort of thing?
2:07
We had like mats to put down for different like, what are they called Crash mats?
2:12
Or, Hunter, if you want to take the burning question.
2:16
Yeah, well, first, I want to apologize for my appearance in my voice. I have COVID at the moment. Um, but yeah, so the so the fighting, we have on our, on our campus, a place called the drama gym, which is where we went to stage our combat classes. And myself and the guy who plays miles Seth, who's one of our best friends were super into super into stage combat super into different stunts. And so we did the rehearsing within the drama gym. And we strategically found where shots could be. So that like, if there was a throw or a fall, we could place the mats out of camera site. So that then we'd have like a place to a place for us to safely fall and stuff. But for the most part when we actually shot that was actually like a the back of a car lot. That was actually a parking garage was actually a church on concrete, gravel, stuff like that. There's a couple of shots where I know, I do a kip up. Spider Man has a kip up in the parking lot there where the mat is blue screened out. But for the most part, it's there are quite a few falls onto actual hard surfaces. And my costume got a little ripped up.
3:36
Just a little roughed!
3:35
Just a little roughed, ha. And there's still dirt smudges on it. But it's very, it was very worth it very fun. For sure.
3:46
Okay, wonderful. Yeah, cuz like I noticed, like throughout the that entire fight scene, it's just, you just took each jump, each fall. And I was like starting to worry! Cause, like, that Spider Man suit looks custom! You know, and, whether the hits actually touched or not. It does damage to your heels the minute that you actually land, you know. So I'm just really impressed because like most choreography I've seen, in Fan Film Awards here. We've been here for like six, seven years now are usually done on grass to actually take the, you know, take the impact. So, were you wearing shoes? Like like really highend shoes on the costume or?
4:36
Um, I guess, like the base suit I got from a site called zentai zone or formerly called zentai zone which is now I think superherocostumes.com. And there are kung fu shoes built in. And for sure y'all print costume. Yes. Thank you, Michael. Um, and so the kung fu shoes are built in. And definitely the feet get a little roughed up. But yeah, that that, that is definitely a concern because I've worn that suit to conventions before and they're like, Okay, thank God you're wearing shoes. But for the most part, I have like a kind of a gymnastics background. My mom teaches gymnastics, but I never like competed or anything, but I've sort of learned over time. And so that the ballots and the jumping and stuff just comes from 20 years of being kind of sprightly.
5:30
And more props to Hunter because all of our exterior night scenes which were all of our fight scenes were like 45 degrees and lower. And you weren't wearing much under that suit.
5:47
We were all freezing I mean, Kraven was sleeveless. Yeah.
5:52
I I wore the costume the other day to visit some kids and I still found the hot hands that I stuck into the suit to make myself a little warmer.
6:05
Okay, okay. Wonderful. With this, I guess this rendition of Spider Man meeting Kraven for the first time was that based on any exact comic chapter? Because I don't believe that like I understand Miles Morales way beyond this, you know, Spider Man and Kraven should have actually known each other for years already. But the idea that you know Osborn practically works with the kingpin? I got a little confused I'm just like okay, I think I know this spider man but I don't know if I actually know this one. Was this any version the amazing the fantastic or?
7:02
I was more inspired by the spectacular Spider Man Show as well as the I believe it's just Spider Man animated series in the 90s kind of had Kraven more than the spectacular one. But um, I would say we kind of again, as I said earlier, it was kind of just a project to get people to be in their little dream roles. So I wanted to put in Miles I wanted to put in Kraven I want to put in. Also Kraven's a good Spider Man villain to have on a budget, you know? Yeah, so we kind of just built our own little story with some inspiration. But I mean, there's classic Kraven stories like Kravens Last Hunt that we didn't really follow because of the whole symbiote suit. So we kind of just took little pieces and made our own thing.
8:03
We have a question from Michael here. He's asked, what was the best part of working at this?
8:16
Do you want to answer that?
8:22
I can.
8:22
Yeah, go ahead.
8:23
Um, well, I was just gonna say that. I think my favorite part of working on this movie was like not anything specific. It was like the teamwork and the friendship and everything. But I was gonna say like, when we were talking about stunts and stuff, like the choreography was just as impressive in real life as it was on camera. I had never done, I've never produced any kind of like action movie or anything as ambitious as the script was. I remember when Alexia gave me the script, she was like, oh, yeah, like, you know, my boyfriend wrote a Spider Man fan film. And you know, we might want to make it and I'm like, okay, cool. Like, this is gonna be like a cute little, like, five minute thing. And then script was, was like 30 something pages, and then stunts and weapons and fighting. And I was like, Oh my gosh, like, I don't know if we can like, for a minute, I was like, I don't know if this can be done like with, with our resources and our budget and everything, but we did it and it came out like so much better than I could have ever imagined. So I feel like, for me, what I'm most proud of with working on this film was like, just how much my opinion changed on like, what is doable in the world of filmmaking and especially with like action films and things because it seems really over the top ambitious and I did not think it was something that like we could accomplish for a while. But as we kept working on it, I was like, okay, like it's kind of falling into place. And that was just a really exciting feeling.
9:50
Wonderful, wonderful. Was it hard to actually find good lighting? I noticed you guys are doing a lot of night scenes
9:59
Yeah, we had two units and some like bouncing reflector sheets. So that helped a lot for like the close ups but the wides were more difficult to actually like,
10:11
there's a lot of natural lighting
10:13
You utilized your your cars headlights.
10:18
Yeah.
10:18
I think my favorite part was probably we call it the goon fight, which was the first fight with a bunch of people. I think more specifically, the first time that we had Spider Man on camera, kind of like he kind of felt it and it was quiet and people were looking at it and people were seeing because we had just what's it called Hunter the paint that we used?
10:47
We puff painted all the webbing.
10:49
So we just pretty much finished the suit before we're filming. And I don't know, it was really special. It was like I was a kid again, and I'm making it this time.
11:00
So lovely. Lovely. What was the camera you guys used? What kind of equipment did you guys actually play with here?
11:12
It's a it's a Lumix camera I don't remember the particulars. I can probably find it. We have all this in like Google Drive.
11:24
Oh, wow. Okay. Well, while you're looking into that, as well, whenwriting this whole script, did you guys have any difficulties in I guess, trying to follow through with the whole plot? Were there things you guys added along the way when you were actually filming? Or was it all just somebody was just a genius enough to actually like, finish the whole script. You guys just miraculously followed it? to a tee?
11:56
Yeah, we didn't change anything about the script. On the days did we?
12:00
I mean, other than little lines. I can't remember something that was huge. Also the camera is a Lumix s one mirrorless camera. Yeah, but um, scripts,
12:11
our biggest change to the script. More like in the development phase, before we got started with pre production was MJ storyline, we changed she was she was more of a side character. And we didn't have any of the like the New York Times internship stuff in there. We wanted to give her like one of our friends point out that like, she probably needs more depth and we need to give her more of a voice and, like, a motivation.
12:38
Any kind of tied in like nicely to get her in the end.
12:42
In the end. Yeah, she actually had a motivation to stay there. Yeah.
12:46
Well, that's fantastic, because I actually found that lovely that Peter had to finally explain why he was Basques psychologist, and why he was always secretive and defensive about the all this fraud. If anything, I felt like it brought more depth to the relationship, even though they weren't really going out. You know,
13:14
like, you can see who these two people are and what they want differs and where they're going differs, but they still care about each other. It's not like a Peter problem. It's an MJ and Peter problem.
13:25
Yeah,
13:25
But we also we did some improv, like, all this stuff under the mask we did in post so we had Hunter mess around with little quips to say.
13:40
So, Toby, oh, so how long did it take for you guys to actually finish the film?
13:47
Seven days to shoot
13:49
seven day shoot
13:50
In the winter we started pre production sort of off and on starting in September, I think.
13:57
Yeah, we were, the main pre production I was starting October.
14:02
Yeah.
14:02
We've been rehearsing, I think, since the start of October as well. And then post production, basically. Yeah. So we have pre production from September ish. We put it out in April. So like seven months.
14:21
okay. Okay.
14:24
Alongside school schedules, yeah. We filmed in November. And then we had basically our whole spring semester working on to films that we had to do during school and alongside editing
14:42
the school we go to, like like crewing as part of the curriculum for film students and actors act in the films that the film kids make. So it like in our in our year and on ours year, five films go out every weekend. For like, a stretch of three weeks, it's just hell, but no one was mostly editing. It was fine.
15:12
Speaking of which, the editing process how long that takes was it all just you or?
15:20
Liz edited the dialogue, and some of the fights
15:23
Our cinematographer Liz Gunther was the assistant editor. So a lot of the dialogue, some of the Peter and MJ stuff, Liz edited. And I did most of the fight stuff-
15:23
you did all of it fully. Haha
15:37
So a lot of the sound effects, all of the sound of sound effects, we had a composer for some of the score. But it took a long time and a lot of like the visual effects like the spider and just, I don't know, I kind of, I've seen the movie a lot of times. It took a long time, but I'm really happy with how it turned out. And we had a little premiere, and people enjoy it. So it's been great.
16:04
You guys actually asked for around the comic cons that actually show that up?
16:08
I mean, not yet.
16:14
Okay, okay. It's lovely, lovely. I'd like to open questions to the audience, if anybody has any other questions.
16:29
Prior to actually finishing all this, what would you tell new filmmakers making fan films in itself? Any inspiration that they could take any worries that should, should be worried about?
16:49
Okay. My biggest fear, because this is the biggest project that I've produced. And thankfully, I have a team here to support me and do a lot of the work for me along the way. And point out things that I would never have thought of, but um, it's like, I was just, again, scared, like, I'm going to achieve all of this, but something. And so I was sort of afraid to like ask people like, Hey, do you want to be on this massive shoot, while you're really busy? And give us your time and go out in the cold? And, you know, just chug, like, be troopers? And they were like, yeah, like everybody was so it was it like,
17:32
Morale was so good. Like, we all wanted to be there.
17:36
Yeah. And they all wanted to pitch in more, and they were all excited. And I guess they could see our passion, or somehow we inspire them. But I think a lot of young filmmakers are afraid to take that chance and say, like, oh, probably nobody's gonna want to work with this. Or like, I might not be able to make this but like, put yourself out there and see what happens. And it works out somehow. Some sort of universal magic shit.
18:04
After we put it out. These two high schoolers reached out to me saying that they loved it. And because I talked to them about it, I never had, like someone I didn't know want to talk about my movie. So I was like, Sure. And they wanted to make a fan film. So my advice to them was write what you want it to be. And then make it more realistic after
18:31
Yeah. Because you start out with realism, you're, you're pushing aside passion. And people love to see what you love about it in the script. And they can tell when it's just following the rules.
18:44
Yeah, and we got realistic as we're going because we had a lot of shots, too many shots. Like we can get we need to get this and this and this and this got cut down a bit. Yeah.
19:01
But it's also really surprising what you can pull off as well. And I think like having a strong team like, I mean, like especially people in like key positions, like director, producer dp and stuff all being on the same page, but like when everybody's on the same page, and everybody's excited about it. That just moves things along so smoothly. And then like, you know, I mean, not not not so much on set, but like in pre production, you know, we would just like kind of spit back and forth ideas and like me and Alexia got really close as collaborators and and as friends through this and like now like and we're right now we've done another outside project with Dec one since then we're working on another one right now like so. Yeah, it was just it's just having like good people to work with is goes such a long life. Yeah, we're
19:51
again in the middle of pre production right now. We've been shooting for two weeks
19:55
Yeah. Are you guys exhausted? Yeah. Yes but it's fun. Movie makin's fun.
20:05
It should be fun.
20:06
It should be fun.
20:07
Yeah. No I feel you feel you remember back like years ago, like I had friends that were actually starting out Cheryl Baker and they told me trust me, trust me. I'm really happy it's I just looked exhausted.
20:27
Well done guys well done. If anything I was just putting on the chat where people can find more of your work. And please feel free to enjoy the rest of the festival. Thank you!
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